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Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 23rd, 2015, 5:47 pm

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IP obtained from the Asus NT56U router
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It's here, unpacked and being charged. Downloaded the android app and have obtained an IP. More info will follow:
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 23rd, 2015, 7:50 pm

Nice! I'm expecting mine in a few hours too. Look forward to your experiences!
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 23rd, 2015, 8:00 pm

Ran into an issue at the Apple app store. Can't find the iRobot HOME app.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby lonefire » September 23rd, 2015, 8:03 pm

A friend of mine just got theirs - heads up, the robot and app doesn't work with 5 GHz WiFi bands (just the 2.4).
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 23rd, 2015, 8:09 pm

The manual also indicates that the robot is 2.4GHz-only.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 23rd, 2015, 8:10 pm

vic7767 wrote:Ran into an issue at the Apple app store. Can't find the iRobot HOME app.


iRobot HOME by iRobot Corporation
https://appsto.re/us/Q1Hu8.i
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 23rd, 2015, 10:50 pm

jdongThanks for the URL, got the ios app to download to an iPAD and install.

Right now from the looks of things it appears that the 980 will get its firmware updates via WiFi so no more hardware OSMOs needed..
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 23rd, 2015, 11:30 pm

My pleasure, thanks for your boatloads of helpful insight on this site! It's got me hooked on the robot vacuum hobby :).

I made a separate thread detailing my adventures with the Roomba 980. So far I'm fairly impressed.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 24th, 2015, 11:12 am

@vic: What do you think of the noise level of the bot? It seems to me like both "eco" and Carpet Boost mode are louder than the 880, or at least the pitch of the fan has changed compared to before. Now, it sounds comparably loud to a Neato.

Wanting to make sure mine isn't defective or something.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 24th, 2015, 11:44 am

jdong wrote:What do you think of the noise level of the bot?
It is quieter than the Neato and Botvac (haven't measured DBs) but louder than the 880. What is really cool is that when transitioning from linoleum to Berber carpet the vacuum boost kicks in and there is a familiar sound similar to the Scooba 450.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 24th, 2015, 12:47 pm

Sounds like tonight I should dust off my Botvac and run it to remind me what the noise level was! You might be right in that the BotVac is still louder -- the difference is primarily the pitch of the sound. It sounds a lot more like a high speed compressor/impeller, really similar to the Scooba.

As you mentioned, "carpet boost" seems to work like a charm. It really does a good job reacting to transitioning from floor to carpet and back. Seems to pick heavier particles out of my carpets, and the hardwood floor pickup doesn't seem worse than the 880 (though quite honestly the roller design is not great for hard floors to begin with)
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 24th, 2015, 1:16 pm

Sent the 980 on its maiden voyage into this double-wide home. Left the re-purposed bedroom (Robot-Room) door open so the 980 had access to the room that other robots are not allowed to run in unsupervised.

Below is a picture of the dust bin contents after the first mission. I was surprised to discover a 6 inch length of 22 gauge insulated wire had become part of the dust bin contents. True to what was mentioned by "third_deg" in the 800 CHM discussion. The new design of the CHM allows for unusual debris to be gathered into the dust bin without any issues at all.

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980 Dust bin contents


Should also mention that several robots are run in the same environment at least twice a week but based on the dust bin contents you wouldn't think so. :o
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 24th, 2015, 1:30 pm

Nice! Yeah, I've found the same — sometimes I open the dustbin on my 880 and think "how the heck did that get in there?". It's picked up objects as big as plastic water bottle caps.

So far, I'm impressed by this bot.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 24th, 2015, 2:40 pm

Snooping around a little, the 980 still has the button sequence to enter into the BiTs mode. The issue now is how to find the ASCII text output. There is no SCI 7 pin mini din and possibly no longer supports the Open Interface commands. The search now begins to find the telnet TCP port that may have the BiTs and charging reports that we are all used to.

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Top cover removed, no 7 pin mini din.
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby mfortuna » September 24th, 2015, 7:22 pm

Too bad about lack a mini-din and possible lack of SCI. It seems like that could have been easy to retain. Maybe a port on the main board replaced the mini-din. Vic7767, you know you want to take that baby apart and find out!
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 24th, 2015, 7:26 pm

mfortuna wrote:you know you want to take that baby apart and find out!


:cheers: It's gonna happen soon :cheers:
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 25th, 2015, 3:20 pm

The 980 was taken apart, and discovered that there is COM access via a micro USB port hidden under the top rear right trim that can be popped off for access. Then use your favorite terminal program @ 115200 and you can get info like this:

key-wakeup
slept for 0 minutes 11 seconds

2015-08-01-1243-L
roomba-mobility/tags/v1.2.3:4060 CLEAN

bootloader id: 30F7 4808 1150 8620
robot-assembly: a
board-revision: rev-a
hw-configuration: a
audio image status: ok , audio flash format: 5, pack ID: 5, Flash Image Name: El Paso PP NA

enabled language: en-US (0)
battery-current-zero 256
BOOTLOADER-ID 30F7 4808 1150 8620
ROBOT-ASSEMBLY a
BOARD-REVISION rev-a
HW-CONFIG a
audio image status: ok , audio flash format: 5, pack ID: 5, Flash Image Name: El Paso PP NA
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby vic7767 » September 25th, 2015, 5:11 pm

And the charging report on the 980 is just a little different. Here's a snippit from the micro USB port:

bat: min 93 sec 17 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3100 state 16 mode 5
learned-capacity-by-discharging-fully-updater: interrupted by charge
bat: min 93 sec 18 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3101 state 16 mode 5
bat: min 93 sec 19 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3101 state 16 mode 5
bat: min 93 sec 20 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3101 state 16 mode 5
bat: min 93 sec 21 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3102 state 16 mode 5
bat: min 93 sec 22 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3102 state 16 mode 5
bat: min 93 sec 23 mV 15975 mA 1172 rx-byte 27 mAH 3102 state 16 mode 5
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Popped the top, a peek inside the 980

Postby vic7767 » September 25th, 2015, 7:04 pm

Dis-assembly of the 980 is similar to any of the earlier R3 Roombas. Here's what is under the cover.

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Main circuit board top view
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Re: Roomba 980 arrived at the shop

Postby jdong » September 25th, 2015, 7:30 pm

Nice! Any chance you can post closer-up images of the big chips on the circuit boards? I'm curious what the brains got upgraded to in order to support visual SLAM.

EDIT: There should also be an Eye-FI SD card on there somewhere, which provides the wifi.

EDIT 2: Initial impressions: It seems to say evolutionary approach to adding VSLAM to the design. Most likely there's a dedicated image processing chipset next to the camera, and the main board seems to have a large DSP/MCU and possibly storage or memory or SPI boot flash next to it.
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