Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

The very latest news and updates for the iRobot Roomba robotic vacuum, the Scooba Robotic Washer and the Dirt Dog workshop sweeper. All discussion and troubleshooting questions go here.

Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby NoJimForHome » November 1st, 2018, 7:22 pm

Greetings all - happy to buy a new brush carrier assembly if required. Just trying to make sure it is required.

Took the whole robot apart, cleaned everything. The gears in the side of the brush carrier were surprisingly clean after several years of long-haired animal pickup. I assume better sealing is one of the features of this one, advertised as "for pets" at Costco ~2015.

I have put +12v on the brush motor and it spins up just fine, but when I plug the brush assembly back into the robot, there is no brush spinning. The vacuum and side brushes work just fine.

I wondered if the Dirt Detect sensor somehow influences the brush motor, because that has been pretty dirty (?) but based on the description I found online of the sensor, I don't see how it'd impact brush spinning. Is it possible there's a problem with the robot motherboard?

Thoughts? Help! :)
NoJimForHome
 
Posts: 46
Joined: November 1st, 2018, 1:20 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby vic7767 » November 1st, 2018, 9:23 pm

The brush deck is controlled by an H-Bridge on the circuit board. You might have a defective component within the H-Bridge circuitry. You can read through the iRobot Service manual and read how to perform the built in tests in MANUAL mode and see if some of the H-Bridge is working (anti-tangle forward/reverse). Go here to download the pdf document:

http://choisirsonaspirateur.info/wp-con ... Manual.pdf
Roomba and Neato Mods, come visit: http://www.vic7767.com/
User avatar
vic7767
Robot Master
 
Posts: 14778
Joined: January 14th, 2006, 8:31 pm
Location: Haughton Louisiana - USA

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby TechGuy » November 1st, 2018, 9:26 pm

You had confirmed your CHM motor is working by applying 12v power to the CHM motor.
Is there any chance that water/liquid got into your 655?
Water damage is one of the cause of CHM H-bridge failure.
Charging battery directly: 400 Series, 500 Series,.H-Bridge Repair How to Desolder
TechGuy
Robot Addict
 
Posts: 1559
Joined: February 17th, 2009, 11:52 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby NoJimForHome » November 1st, 2018, 9:34 pm

TechGuy wrote:You had confirmed your CHM motor is working by applying 12v power to the CHM motor.
Is there any chance that water/liquid got into your 655?
Water damage is one of the cause of CHM H-bridge failure.

Oh yes, more than just a chance! I have a two-year-old who likes to mess with the dogs' water dish. It's very annoying.

Thanks for the H-bridge info, I'll check it out. Meantime, what's the fix for that, assuming it's bad? :oops:
NoJimForHome
 
Posts: 46
Joined: November 1st, 2018, 1:20 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby TechGuy » November 1st, 2018, 9:53 pm

I followed @a1robotrepair's post to fix all H-bridge circuits. Good luck.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19065&p=143078&hilit=canadian+hero#p143078
Charging battery directly: 400 Series, 500 Series,.H-Bridge Repair How to Desolder
TechGuy
Robot Addict
 
Posts: 1559
Joined: February 17th, 2009, 11:52 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby NoJimForHome » November 1st, 2018, 10:31 pm

Welp. Roomba battery is dead from being off the charger for a week. Will have to do the self-tests tomorrow.

Meanwhile, I have a soldering iron, but I wouldn't say I have soldering "skills." So... :?

If I can't fix any problems with the board, guess I'll have to try my luck with eBay huh? :geek:
NoJimForHome
 
Posts: 46
Joined: November 1st, 2018, 1:20 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby vic7767 » November 1st, 2018, 10:55 pm

NoJimForHome wrote:I'll have to try my luck with eBay
Probably your best less painful solution.
Roomba and Neato Mods, come visit: http://www.vic7767.com/
User avatar
vic7767
Robot Master
 
Posts: 14778
Joined: January 14th, 2006, 8:31 pm
Location: Haughton Louisiana - USA

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby NoJimForHome » November 3rd, 2018, 1:56 pm

TechGuy wrote:I followed @a1robotrepair's post to fix all H-bridge circuits. Good luck.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19065&p=143078&hilit=canadian+hero#p143078


Hm. Well, based on that thread, I'm guessing my mobo is shot. There appears to be water damage in the brush motor area as described:

Image
Edit: weird, the forum seems to be cropping some of the pic. Direct link here:
https://i.postimg.cc/2CwwYQgM/IMG-20181103-122612.jpg

I was GOING to say "I have no idea how water would have gotten on TOP of the motherboard," but I'm guessing the answer is the same as most answers around here these days... "I have a two year old." :facepalm:
For that matter, the top faceplate that appears so easy to remove in videos was quite difficult... seems to have "glued" itself down near the center button area. Dunno.

I see "600 series" motherboards on eBay for $70-85... two questions:
1) Are all x00 series motherboards the same? Or do I need to find one specifically for a 655?
2) What kind of price target should I be looking to hit here?

Thanks!!
NoJimForHome
 
Posts: 46
Joined: November 1st, 2018, 1:20 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby TechGuy » November 3rd, 2018, 4:58 pm

Motherboard of 500 and 600 series Roomba are interchangeable. I have not worked 600 series motherboard with the WiFi support. I don't know whether they can be used in your Roomba.

If you don't need scheduling function, you can get a cheaper 530 motherboard for $40.

There is lots of residue at the CHM motor connector (near R358). Pin 1 and 2 are covered with residue.
Residues are all over the CHM motor transistors (right side of R150/R151 and left side of R147)

You can get a bottle of 99% rubbing alcohol. Submerse your motherboard in 99% alcohol. Use an old tooth brush to clean your motherboard. Let it dry or use compress air to get rid of the alcohol. If the power transistors was not damage with water/liquid, you may get it working again. I would say 20% chance that it may work without replacing the H-bridge transistors. Good luck.

The CHM motor H-bridge transistors are mounted on 2 heat sinks on the other side of the motherboard.
Charging battery directly: 400 Series, 500 Series,.H-Bridge Repair How to Desolder
TechGuy
Robot Addict
 
Posts: 1559
Joined: February 17th, 2009, 11:52 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby leonicholson » November 3rd, 2018, 5:41 pm

Would consider just buying a "Parts Only" Ebay Roomba, as you have the accessories. Only problem I've encountered with them is bad battery.
That way, your existing one can become spare parts.
leonicholson
Robot Addict
 
Posts: 131
Joined: November 3rd, 2017, 5:25 pm

Re: Roomba 655 main brushes not spinning

Postby NoJimForHome » November 3rd, 2018, 6:05 pm

Oh man, I was tentatively excited for TechGuy's "clean with rubbing alcohol" trick to work. The mobo sure did look a lot better; all of the residue came off and everything. Unfortunately still no brush action. :/

I'm already looking at some "parts only" eBay robots... but who can tell if they have a clean board or not? There's one labeled "Looks okay, found in a garage. No charger. As is" for $40; I'm tempted to grab that thing.

Appreciate everyone's thoughts here. Guess it's off to eBay I go!
NoJimForHome
 
Posts: 46
Joined: November 1st, 2018, 1:20 pm


Return to iRobot Roomba and Scooba Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: EYE063NOSYD, im1kissfan, jdong, leonicholson, Miles267, wassct and 365 guests