Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

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Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby AnNARF » July 20th, 2011, 8:35 pm

Hi!

In my flat the robot would have to overcome heightenings; see here:
http://h6.abload.de/img/boden00377hy.jpg

The heightenings are about 2cm (~1 inch) high.

Does anyone know if the XV-11 can easily overcome these?

Thanks.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby roboroomba » July 20th, 2011, 9:53 pm

if all of them are like that I think it could handle them easily
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby AnNARF » July 21st, 2011, 9:25 am

I asked the support, but not sure if that is a good answer or not:

"Thank you for contacting the Neato Robotics Web Store.

With regards to the difference is floor height, the unit is instructed to
stop at any point of level change, so this will effect the course when it
runs. However you could arrange different programmes to suit the level. You
would need to change the base location for the Neato to fulfil each
programme."

What do they mean when saying "change the base location"?
Manually placing the robot in one room after the other?
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby User38 » July 21st, 2011, 10:13 am

I think the Neato customer support person thought you were asking about a multi story residence.

The Neato can deal with height differentials of about 25 millimetres as that is the height of the front bumper. If the height difference is more than 25 mm the Neato front bumper touch sensor will be activated and the Neato will turn away. Less than 25 mm and the Neato will traverse the gap easily.

From the photo it looks like the height difference is about 15 mm. I don't think you will have any problems.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby AnNARF » July 21st, 2011, 10:22 am

Most of them are less than 25mm high; one is exactly 25mm high and one 29mm.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby JEfromCanada » July 21st, 2011, 10:28 am

AnNARF wrote:Hi!

In my flat the robot would have to overcome heightenings; see here:
http://h6.abload.de/img/boden00377hy.jpg

The heightenings are about 2cm (~1 inch) high.

Does anyone know if the XV-11 can easily overcome these?

Thanks.


As someone has already stated, if your height differential is enough to cause the bumper sensor to trigger, it will not negotiate the incline. However, there are ways to mitigate the problem (in case you are affected). My house is very similar to yours (a difference in height right at the doorway opening). I have a metal "ramp" that I use to make the transition easier. You can watch the video that I left in one of my earlier posts (June 1st) showing the trouble that Neato has with that transition.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby AnNARF » July 21st, 2011, 11:19 am

Interesting, it struggles a bit even though your obstacles are much easier to overcome I think (because they are more like a ramp as you already said)... worries me a bit...
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby pjnagel » July 21st, 2011, 2:37 pm

I have a similar situation. I found used a self-adhesive soft plastic strip that is normally used to seal the bottom of a door against rain, and I stuck it to the floor so that it made a ramp for the Neato to climb.

It worked, but it was not a good idea. The adhesive tends to take a little bit of the wood floors urethane sealer off with it when you try and remove it again, so I will have to re-seal the floor when remove the strip.

But I am sure, if you think along the lines of finding a ramp for the robot, you will be able to come up with a plan. I'm sure a strip of wood about 15mm high, as wide as the door, and about 20mm deep, will help the robot get over the obstacle.

To start off with, experiment with laying a flat rigid doormat crosswise over the step, and if that works, you can try and find a more permanent aesthetic solution.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby JEfromCanada » July 23rd, 2011, 12:46 am

Within the past day, I've had to admit defeat and try a different strategy for this height differential. In my case, that doorway represents only one of the possible points of entry/exit from the dining room. After watching Neato's daily struggle with that particular ramp, I decided to simply place a magnetic strip along the metal ramp. Now, Neato treats that doorway as if it were a wall (no matter which direction it approaches the doorway), and the reduced stress means that Neato finishes the vacuuming just a bit faster with just a bit less difficulty.

The only "downside" is that, once a vacuuming session is complete, Neato will navigate through the living room to get to the charging base, rather than trying to go through that door opening. And that's fine by me!
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby Ametz » August 6th, 2012, 11:05 am

I also have a problem with hight at 3 doors.
Since its first day i use carpets over it. =P

Perhaps i gonna construct a light "v" shaped thing to put over it as a ramp.
Just a little little bent metal plate or something.

Since i live in an apartment i can't do anything i want like changing/replacing it to a lower one.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby glnc222 » August 6th, 2012, 1:04 pm

Floor cord covers of possible interest for ramps
[edit] later tested some of this, doesn't work well because too flexible, pushed aside easily, and vinyl doesn't stick with most glues. Wood or plastic molding is needed.

http://www.amazon.com/Wiremold-CDI15-Corduct-On-Floor-Protector/dp/B0006VAWFG/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1344272387&sr=1-1&keywords=over+floor+cord+protector

comes in a range of heights and widths:
http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-covers/economical.htm?utm_source=CO&utm_medium=Banner&utm_campaign=RecView
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby BAM » August 7th, 2012, 12:07 am

Might just add that after my XV-11's wheel mount springs broke, and I repaired with the screw in hooks as suggested on this forum, it reduced the spring tension enough that my Neato then had trouble mounting a piece of carpet I have as a door mat that is about 12mm high. (Previously was no problem)

In the end I had to remove the hook and just attach the spring to the hole I had drilled for the hook, and spring tension was then enough for it to mount ok as before.
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby Ametz » August 7th, 2012, 2:06 pm

I might have found a solution, not 100% perfect, but cheap.

I must cut this one on the longside to remove the tiny thing on the left, then the hight will be 22mm
And if i cut it more till it gets 60mm wide i get a hight of 17mm..

It only costs 1,44Euro per 1M at bauhaus (lokal woodstore)
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby JEfromCanada » August 8th, 2012, 3:20 am

Great idea!
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby Ametz » August 8th, 2012, 1:51 pm

Yep, that worked perfect. now it dosen't need to climb and don't get stuck :)
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Re: Overcoming heightenings (XV-11)

Postby fore » August 27th, 2012, 1:31 pm

AnNARF, if this is the make or break regards a purchase, I would say not to worry about it. I have also complained about transition strip problems, but even if it couldn't make them, I'd still have bought. Personally I have never used the schedule option (each room requires a bit of preperation, lifting drapes, etc.), so I tend to set it running at weekends or while I'm cooking or something. Once it finishes an area, you can just pick it up and drop it into the next area (assuming it can't make the transitions). OK, it would be nice if it did absolutely everything in one go, but it wouldn't be the make or break for me.
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