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Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 15th, 2012, 1:57 pm

A small order container from the deli exactly fitted over the scanner housing on the XV-11, providing a handy dust cover (after dining) between uses several days apart. Just in case of those dirt related RPS problems. Will now be exposed only a few hours a week instead of continuously. Too bad the scanner housing is not made with some way to open for cleaning instead of disassembling the entire case in a way needed only for repairs. Tricky to do, avoiding exposure to customer's damaging the components. It would be nice to get an officially recommended procedure instead of being cast upon the dark waters of web chat advice. Enough to order another sandwich.

[edit] Botvac below http://www.robotreviews.com/chat/viewtopic.php?p=127249#p127249
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby vic7767 » February 15th, 2012, 2:52 pm

A very thoughtful solution to a possible RPS error that may now be either extended or prevented.
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby OntheWay » February 15th, 2012, 3:06 pm

I was thinking a similar solution with a glass (heavier then plastic) Petri dish, after seeing amount of dust accumulated on top of Neato in a few days.
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby Fraggboy » February 15th, 2012, 3:24 pm

I sure hope they are working on a resolution for this. I wouldn't like the added step to remove/replace the deli solution before/after every run.. :( Automation Neato. Less human intervention!!
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 16th, 2012, 1:16 am

What would be most impressive is slowly opening visors over the scanner openings and an ominous glowing dot shifting back and forth within before running...to clean the ship after earthlings tracked in so much dirt.
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby Wing Nut » February 16th, 2012, 2:03 am

Dropping a plastic cup (or a lint-free cloth) of some sort over the hood is probably something that could be rigged up at home. I can visualise a Neato reversing into the dock, and as it does so, it triggers a switch, maybe by driving into or over a lever or pad, thus releasing the dust cover (maybe a big deli cup that can't miss!) down over the hood. When it moves off to clean once more, the cup is drawn back up as the triggering device is reset.
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Deli Solution

Postby WishIhadaBoat » February 16th, 2012, 11:45 pm

Guys I think you are fixing the wrong problem.

I believe the turret doesn't get dusty sitting on its base..... It gets dusty during usage.

It comes from two sources: Under furniture hanging cobweb type dust and more significantly, from inside the robot.

I suspect that all Neatos (like mine) have a non-perfect seal at some points of the vacume path. This dust then is blown around inside and then out through the turret.

I think this internally sourced dust is the most likely to disrupt the RPS.

Neato need to work on their dust sealing systems. In particular the roller motor shaft inside the robot body is susceptible to hair ingress and binding because of the belt opening.
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 17th, 2012, 12:14 am

The cover only has to lift half an inch, so a solenoid would do; trigger off current to the charging plates created at contact. Mechanical only, push in a stud between the contact strips, storing tension in a latched spring, released when the stud is freed. Could fit in an optional deluxe charging unit with dust covers requiring replacement every three months.
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 20th, 2012, 4:38 pm

Dust from inside running: pics of internal construction at Robotshop:
http://www.robotshop.com/blog/neato-xv- ... vacuum-978
The bottom of the LDS seems to isolate it, except for the motor which might need blowing out, and maybe not depending on how this fits in, can't quite see.

Not clear dust is the cause of RPS failures in the first place. Might be quality problems in the sensor, and more limited to early production. Recall Vic7767 describing replacing weak Roomba sensor chips.
Any problem in power supply to the electronics can produce intermittent failures hard to diagnose, with any borderline power supply condition. Voltage regulators, capacitors. Raft of bad capacitors in the news a few years ago bothered PC makers. It can appear to be processor and memory failures but isn't -- and such chips get intense quality control.

One mod might be to cut a screwed down door in the LDS top cover for cleaning access.
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 28th, 2012, 9:31 pm

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The Museum Collection deli solution (so? vinyl decal skins are made for Roomba, why not?)
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby Fraggboy » February 28th, 2012, 10:03 pm

It's hard to see your picture. Do you have a larger pic bychance?
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 28th, 2012, 11:39 pm

bigger picture as attachment vs Picasa storage
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby Fraggboy » February 29th, 2012, 12:01 am

Much better. :) Looks good. Hope this modification will help keep those nasty RPS errors at bay! :)
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » February 29th, 2012, 12:49 am

Maybe by time it happens Vic7767's expanded repair business will be fully capable of repairing. Neat graphics on the new site http://www.robot-doc.com/
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Re: Deli Solution

Postby glnc222 » November 8th, 2014, 6:47 pm

Botvac Dust Cover

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Not all deli's use the same containers, so no telling what can be found. To fit this so close, slots were cut for the little support stanchions (tiny scissors on pocket knives). They are not evenly spaced and it fits in only one orientation, with a market on the back side to put in place. It stays on when the Botvac is carried by the handle.
Of course not suitable for scheduled cleaning.

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