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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby OntheWay » May 11th, 2012, 4:40 pm

chris-s wrote:
OntheWay wrote:I was thinking on something similar, but instead of 90 degrees angle to driving direction, sth like 45 or 60 degrees forward,
If you carefully look at my pictures, you'll see the brush has an angle of 45 degrees backward, the purpose was to bend along the wall.
Finally, I put it 90 degrees and has a better performance.


Unfortunately, image links seems broken on browser, only the video works.

I am thinking on a side brush solution for a long time, the only feasible solution looks like friction wheel+cog arrangement to me too. A small brush with a flexible axis, hairs planted as "acrhimedes screw" and driven by friction wheel. The wheel(s) can be placed on below of bumper's front and its shaft can be as long as the bumper's itself, drives the sidebrush.

Can be a bit offtopic but, I have almost no benefit from low-profile vacuum. For my house, most of the clearences of furnitures from floor are about 2 inches which makes low-profile useless %99 of time, other places that Neato can "infiltrate" are at least 4-5 inches. I would prefer size doubled and used for better vacuum, bigger dust bin, stronger batteries and effective solutions for side cleaning (have to admit that, I said, aha! this is what it must look like, when I saw dyson dc6 pix).
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby chris-s » May 12th, 2012, 5:42 pm

OntheWay wrote:Unfortunately, image links seems broken on browser, only the video works.
Strange... it is working on my side !
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby eldadv » May 16th, 2012, 2:03 pm

Following Chris mod I added static brush to my Neato as well.
It work fine ! at last Neato collect dirt near the wall :D

Downside :
- Brush needs to clean every day (not big problem because I already clean the filter every day)
- Somtimes the brush gets large amount of dirt on it and while the Neato is continue to clean the dirt fall behind (most of the times the Neato collect the dirt with the vacume while it return)
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby chris-s » May 16th, 2012, 3:25 pm

eldadv wrote:- Somtimes the brush gets large amount of dirt on it and while the Neato is continue to clean the dirt fall behind (most of the times the Neato collect the dirt with the vacume while it return)
Exactly ! In my case, this implies that I never clean the static brush, it autocleans when going on a carpet :mrgreen:
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby DocBot » January 11th, 2014, 12:29 am

The pile looks to be about 1/2 inch? Any link to this size pile online for cheap? Also wouldn't it work better if the pile was installed in front of the the vacuum brush?
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 11th, 2014, 1:29 am

Pile weatherstrip
$15 cheapest possibly useful, 0.4" -- thickest .45" only in large rolls online, maybe in stores. Most small units in thin types 1/4" or less.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20ft-CRL-Zipper-Pile-Weatherstrip-187-Backing-x-400-Pile-Height-Dense-/271346046658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2d7c16c2
[edit] U.S. supply only -- check intl ebay sites.

[edit]Google $22 New Jersey firm -- fancier 1/2"; overseas shipping expensive here
http://www.swisco.com/Gray-Wool-Pile-1x8-inch-x-1_2-inch/pd/Wool-Pile/58-013?gclid=CM7EmMa09bsCFUjxOgodhSEA_w

[edit]smaller length 10 ft. in pile weatherstrip $17 incl. shipping to U.S.
http://www.allaboutdoors.com/product_in ... 3944f27992
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 11th, 2014, 1:51 am

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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 11th, 2014, 2:03 am

Material hard to find, so how about wrapping Swiffer or similar dusting cloth on some flexible support, rubber, foam rubber, thin cardboard?

[edit] another smaller length 10 ft. in pile weatherstrip $17 incl. shipping to U.S.
http://www.allaboutdoors.com/product_info.php?cPath=288_294&products_id=2579073&osCsid=3c444291badf73a3eaf9883944f27992
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby DocBot » January 11th, 2014, 9:44 am

Thanks ginc!
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 11th, 2014, 2:42 pm

Mounting possibility:
In the carpet slider mod discovered cardboard or thin plastic (as from takeout food containers) can be taped over and under the edges of the battery compartment cover, held tight by screwed down cover. Other things can then be glued, stapled, or wire inserted into corrugation.
Similar could be taped to the front bumper surface as long as what sticks out is below the wall sensor; probably has to be flexible to bend back when needed.

Chris's is fluffy looking, more like a feather duster -- might be better than a stiffer regular brush, someone else showed here. Battle of the brushes.
Needs material by the foot in stores it seems, or strip off a carpet remnant.
Something dust will stick to.

[edit] another brush
Old fashion shaving brush http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIANE-BARBER-SALON-SHAVING-BRUSH-PLASTIC-HANDLE-9875-/170683168031?pt=US_Shaving_Hair_Removal&hash=item27bd82751f

shaver cleaners http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-End-Shaver-Cleaning-Brushes-2-Brushes-/141041868781?pt=US_Shaving_Hair_Removal&hash=item20d6c01fed

Turkey basters?

Don't have floors to test so can't advise.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 11th, 2014, 8:21 pm

Mounting Swiffer Dust Cloth
--interest for cheaper materials, available small quantities
Not tested for cleaning power lacking suitable floor. Does not interfere with movement, holds shape.
Cloth could be folded double before insertion in holder slit.
1/4" I.D. ~3/8" O.D. plumbing flexible vinyl tubing at Ace Hardware by the foot.
Bends for obstacles.
Amazon 10ft $4.50 delivered U.S. http://www.amazon.com/Watts-SVGE10-Pre-Cut-Diameter-10-Foot/dp/B000HE5DUG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389485573&sr=8-1&keywords=vinyl+tubing+1%2F4%22+ID
Also Home Depot, Loews 10ft

swiffer3.jpg
slit flexible tube cloth holder and battery screw

swiffer2.jpg

swiffer1.jpg


Mother Hen's notes:
cuts with wire cutters not scissors. utility knife, never toward hand, jerks.
Hole for screw best with a leather punch, but 3/16 over size twist drill OK (soft stuff deforms around).
Twist the screw through.

Could be stapled to thin plastic taped around and under battery cover edges instead of screw.

Tubing caution: retains a curve when stored in rolls. Might orient cuts to optimally position this bend, maybe upwards, i.e. resting convex bulging away from bottom. Shown is with curve flat on the Neato.

[edit] a washer under the tubing, where the screw head has a countersinking recess, might flatten the fit more, but the down bend might be useful to push it onto the floor.

[edit] thin flat plastic under the wrap could make a wider flat bottom Swiffer.

[edit] the same tube cut differently might mount thinner pile weatherstrip more available than thick.
(cut away bottom for a sort of bar with rigidity, foam weatherstrip under for thickness, pile strip on bottom -- not tested)
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby chris-s » January 12th, 2014, 4:53 am

glnc222 wrote:
swiffer2.jpg
Hi glnc222 !
Why did you block the movement of the wheel as we can see in this picture ?
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 12th, 2014, 5:15 am

[edit] glad you asked...

If you mean that silver bracket, one installation of the "tilt reduction mod" for problems explained at
http://www.robotreviews.com/chat/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17095&p=119003&hilit=tilt+reduction#p119003

[edit] oops, thread top: http://www.robotreviews.com/chat/viewtopic.php?p=116564#p116564
The metal bracket instead of thread or string is handy for frequent work -- and just the first way...
(also required for "bumper lowering mod")

There is no wheel blockage from the brush I could see.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby 3kgt » January 13th, 2014, 9:48 am

OntheWay wrote:
chris-s wrote:Yes it is the standard brush but I think he was talking about the side brush I have added.
It is a piece of the brush that was added on a wardrobe sliding door.


I was thinking on something similar, but instead of 90 degrees angle to driving direction, sth like 45 or 60 degrees forward, this way it can collect and direct dust more into main brush. My concern on static brush is, it can spread stuff captured on hardfloor to carpets, especially on transition points. According to the video, lenght of sidebrush seems well-adjusted, barely touches to wall, thats great. Its bendable which is another plus point.


+1 .. have any one tried this? A brush 90 degree`?
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » January 13th, 2014, 8:47 pm

45 or 60 degrees forward, this way it can collect and direct dust more into main brush

As the front is moving forward a static brush cannot move anything into the front unless positioned far ahead of the vacuum, incompatible with navigation. Stuff sticks to the brush more than gets moved.

The front bumper positioned side brush runs the risk of tripping the bumper at side obstacles Neato is actually passing by, disturbing the navigation strategies.

Add a temporary door mat or throw rug to clean off the side brush when not permanently installed.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby andrew881 » May 15th, 2016, 1:04 pm

Hi I have just added a static brush myself. I made it with a sponge and a piece of plastic cut (that for papers and documents). It seems to work so fine. I have added 2 nails which insert in the hole behind so that all the thing does not move back and stays steady. Sorry for my English I'm italian.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby andrew881 » May 15th, 2016, 1:06 pm

Another pic of final result.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby andrew881 » June 2nd, 2016, 10:40 am

The sponge is behaving well so far. Only problem is that it captures a big amount of dust and hair which remain attacked. But I guess otherwise those same hair and dust would be in the ground. The ideal thing would be to have those hair and dust aspired.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby glnc222 » June 2nd, 2016, 9:39 pm

As this vacuum depends on an overlapping pattern, the sponge is picking up what would be swept in another pass -- except that strip against the walls... The bristle type might be easier to clean.
A couple of users have added a rotating side brush, other thread. Requires more skill with tools.
The Botvac gets the intake closer to the wall, besides its side brush. They don't help on carpet.
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Re: Static side brush for Neato

Postby andrew881 » June 4th, 2016, 2:47 pm

Maybe you are right in theory but I can assure you that it works. But most important thing is that it is very simple to make requiring just a sponge a piece of plastic or cardboard and maybe 2 nails. Fee people want to risk to open the robot and add a rotating brush. The sponge gets dirty it is true but at the end I have done a test with some baking powder and it cleaned well all the room even the corners.
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