Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

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Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby calypso » December 19th, 2016, 2:35 am

Hi
Been trawling the forums for a while. Now looking to buy a robotic vac. The Neato D3 meets all my needs, but the lack of a side brush concerns me. In real world performance, does that lack of the side brush affect its performance? Im hoping as the main brush is so close to the edge that it will be able to suck all the dust away from a wall which it is following.

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Re: Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby glnc222 » December 19th, 2016, 3:39 am

The side brush covers a narrow strip maybe half an inch along the side still present with the Botvac, which did bring the brush end closer to the side than the original XV model (hence the side brush on the old Vorwerk version). The bumper structure on the Neato prevents the brush end being brought out all the way, needing some room for the bumper action, and would scrape the wall unacceptably if closer. Dyson has made a thing about getting the brush end out far.

I am not a fan of side brushes but opinions vary. Their addition to the first Botvac's was welcome by many users here and they can add their side to the story. Yet plenty of posts here about them falling off, not surprising with obstacles, and some types I have had break against sharp edges of bookcases and what not. I also found some of them at least, pull on wires placed against the wall to escape devouring robots, requiring more fussy less flexible installations of furniture. They are delicate and wear out (replacement packs of them sold). They do not work on carpet only delicately sweeping the surface. The side brushes on round bots help a lot in corners.

The belts for side brushes wear out over years and one more motor is subject to contamination with dust.

The side brush is not the only additional feature on more expensive bots. Wider intakes, larger batteries, more powerful suction, whatever. WiFi apps are an expensive recent addition, with very little use as far as I can see, with the minimal functions supported so far.

Expensive Samsung Powerbots have no side brushes. Fine with me, but some users are more fussy.
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Re: Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby someoneclever » December 19th, 2016, 6:06 am

There's always the option to add your own side brush-search "side brush" in the forums. Instructions may need to be changed for your Botvac model.


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Re: Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby JEfromCanada » December 19th, 2016, 11:13 am

calypso wrote:In real world performance, does that lack of the side brush affect its performance? Im hoping as the main brush is so close to the edge that it will be able to suck all the dust away from a wall which it is following.


I started with the XV unit (no side brush and narrower main brush). Upgrading the the Botvac, I noticed a significant improvement in dirt pickup from carpet nearer the wall. That main brush makes the biggest difference. As far as the side brush goes, I have found that on bare floor, the side brush does an excellent job gathering dust bunnies from the very edge of walls (because, as mentioned already, the bot itself does not scrape against the wall and therefore doesn't get to the very edge).

In summary, if you've got lots of bare floor, the side brush will definitely make a difference.
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Re: Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby calypso » December 20th, 2016, 10:56 am

Hmm this is a pity, I have alot hard wood floors, and getting the dust away from the edges is pretty important to me. Otherwise the D3 checks all my boxes. Would prefer to get the D3 over the older Botvacs as i assume they will be supported for longer and have lithium batteries out of the box.
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Re: Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby someoneclever » December 20th, 2016, 9:03 pm

I'd recommend you add your own side brush-it's not worth paying much more just for that.


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Re: Neato D3 - Lack of side brush affect performance?

Postby themystic » October 1st, 2018, 2:41 am

Hi Guys, i've just bought D3 and noticed no side brush. Shame. Based on what i read there is a possibility to add one?
Is that correct? I have my old botvac d75 and thing to remove and put it into D3. Is there much to do or there is a connector on the mainboard readt?

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