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Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » October 20th, 2011, 11:33 pm

Discovered and posted on the Trossen Robotics Community board there is a way to connect a BlueSMiRF Gold Bluetooth inside the Neato and provide wireless access to the maintenance port instead of using a USB to mini USB cable. A second BlueSMiRF could also be connected to the output of the LIDAR unit and the data sent to a software application to create an image of what the NEATO sees. Here's a picture of the PCB and possible connections.

Here's where you can order the BlueSMiRF that will fit pin-for-pin inside the NEATO.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/582
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby mfortuna » October 21st, 2011, 1:17 pm

You want to be careful with the LIDAR unit. If you tie a bluetooth to serial adapter to the RX pin you will be causing a bus fight with the NEATO's logic. In the above picture I am assuming RX is relative to the LIDAR, meaning data it receives is transmitted by the NEATO. If you hook the bluesmurf TX pin to the LIDAR RX pin it will interfere with the NEATO TX pin. In this case you only want to hook up to the LIDAR's TX pin so you can se what data it is sending out.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby Geppo » October 22nd, 2011, 11:30 am

vic7767 wrote:Discovered and posted on the Trossen Robotics Community board there is a way to connect a BlueSMiRF Gold Bluetooth inside the Neato and provide wireless access to the maintenance port instead of using a USB to mini USB cable. A second BlueSMiRF could also be connected to the output of the LIDAR unit and the data sent to a software application to create an image of what the NEATO sees. Here's a picture of the PCB and possible connections.

Here's where you can order the BlueSMiRF that will fit pin-for-pin inside the NEATO.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/582


Quite interesting....
I agree with mfortuna, you have to connect only the RX line of the BlueSMiRF to the TX line of the LIDAR. If you want to fully trace data coming out from LIDAR as well as data sent to LIDAR (coming from the M/B) you need 2 separate adapters, connecting only the RX line of each to avoid conflicts (one connected to the TX line of the LIDAR, the other connected to the TX line of the M/B). Do not connect the TX line of the BlueSMiRF.
Anyway I don't think the second adapter would be really useful...
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » October 22nd, 2011, 12:35 pm

Geppo wrote:Anyway I don't think the second adapter would be really useful...


Actually the second device would be the most useful since it would provide the image data to a software application.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby Geppo » October 22nd, 2011, 1:44 pm

vic7767 wrote:
Geppo wrote:Anyway I don't think the second adapter would be really useful...


Actually the second device would be the most useful since it would provide the image data to a software application.


The meaning of "the second adapter" was the second adapter connected to the TX line of the M/B to monitor commands issued by the M/B.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » October 22nd, 2011, 2:46 pm

OK, understood.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » October 27th, 2011, 12:12 am

Completed installation of the maintenance channel BlueSM1RF. The pictures are in a .GIF format, click the picture to see all four.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby gorman79 » September 29th, 2013, 6:39 pm

vic7767 have you tried this app to see if Bluetooth enabled Neato would work with it?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... oothRemote

In settings this app has Bluetooth options. I would like to know if it can control neato over Bluetooth before I invest in a Bluetooth modem. Thanks for your help!
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » September 29th, 2013, 8:05 pm

I have not tried that cell phone app or any other for that matter. However, if the app is bluetooth capable and it is published to work with the Neato you still have to be concerned with which class 1 bluetooth device to be installed within the Rev113 Neato main board. The one that the circuit board was designed to work with is the BlueSM1RF that can be purchased from Sparkfun.com.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby nick-tech » October 5th, 2013, 9:21 am

Hello together,

I have an european Neato XV 15, and recently I opened it to attach a bluetooth module. But inside the Neato I found an other mainboard as the one described here
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » October 5th, 2013, 10:37 am

That's too bad. Seems the Rev 113 boards with the bluetooth connections are becoming difficult to find.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby nick-tech » October 6th, 2013, 6:26 am

does anybody know what the connection Terminal P2 is good for?
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby edlep » October 9th, 2013, 11:57 am

Hello,

Same PCB on a XV21 here (called rev. 64 on xv11hacking).
Does anyone have information on P2 and P3 headers ?
Any clue on how to connect a BlueSmirf ?
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby dorobdo » November 19th, 2013, 4:58 am

Hi !

Anyone tried to get a serial connection to the P3-Connector (new board) ? In the above picture the P3 of the new board is in the right-upper corner hidden by the cables. When P3 is the name of the confirmes serial-connector in older boards, P3 could have the same function in the newer boards.
I own an old board, so I can´t try it myself

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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby a4refillpad » January 11th, 2014, 7:21 pm

vic7767 wrote:That's too bad. Seems the Rev 113 boards with the bluetooth connections are becoming difficult to find.


Hi,
I managed to install a bluesmirf onto 113 board. Is there anything else I'm supposed to do to enable it? Not seeing the device when I scan for bluetooth devices :(
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » January 11th, 2014, 7:35 pm

You've got to be able to discover the bluetooth from your PC, once discovered then you have to enter a password to bond it to your PC.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby a4refillpad » January 11th, 2014, 7:39 pm

I must have messed up the soldering i think. Not seeing the bluetooth device at all :(
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby a4refillpad » January 19th, 2014, 7:16 am

OK I seem to have partial success in attaching the bluesmirf onto the Rev 113 vorwerk. Connected to the Android neato application I've driven the robot around and remotely started and stopped it. Fantastic! :)
Everything works great for a while but it seems to randomly get itself into a strange mode after a while, where the lcd back light and sound disappears. When this happens it claims the left and right wheels are also stuck. The only fix appears to be to take it apart and reconnect everything. I've performed this process too many times to count now. Any ideas what it could be? Possibly a loose connection somewhere but I'm unable to locate it. Seems to happen most often when I'm tightening some screws around the bumper for some odd reason. Any help from more experienced people on the forum who've taken the neato apart much appreciated.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby vic7767 » January 19th, 2014, 11:36 am

Don't know how you accomplished the electrical connections between the BlueSM1rf and the PCA. Did you use the header pins or just run jumpers ? There may be cold solder joints or poor connections.
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Re: Bluetooth and NEATO

Postby a4refillpad » January 19th, 2014, 2:03 pm

Hi. I used the header pins as you detailed earlier. The reason my suspicions are else where is because the same thing happens when I unplug the bluetooth device. :(
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