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New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby Heraklen » September 22nd, 2016, 7:26 am

Anyone have any more info about these?

Didn't know they existed before I saw them for release Oct 18 on the Swedish retailer Elgiganten

They have some basic promotion videos here:





More info here (in swedish)
http://www.elgiganten.se/product/hem-oc ... 5100iw-vit
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby davidelewis » September 22nd, 2016, 5:05 pm

Interesting ... The Electrolux UK YouTube channel also links to these videos - so hopefully the Electrolux MotionSense ERV5100IW vacuum may also be available in the UK.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby piokrza » September 22nd, 2016, 5:42 pm

Here http://robotnyheter.se/2016/09/18/elect ... tionsense/ they talk even about two models: ERV5100IW and ERV5210TG respectively 4495 SEK and 4995 SEK

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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby robocleaner » September 23rd, 2016, 12:04 pm

davidelewis wrote:Interesting ... The Electrolux UK YouTube channel also links to these videos - so hopefully the Electrolux MotionSense ERV5100IW vacuum may also be available in the UK.

Electrolux STILL proudly claim (in several places on their UK website at least) to have developed and marketed THE FIRST EVER robotic cleaner... as we know, the Trilobite. That was back in the year 2001. Today, they mention absolutely NOTHING about this new MotionSense cleaner, even though it's supposedly going to be launched in just a few weeks time! The thing is, since the Trilobite was launched, Electrolux has dismantled many of its actual design and manufacturing plants, and much of its wares today are simply imported cheap far-eastern tat branded as Electrolux, or AEG, or Zanussi, or Fridgidaire.

LIke Hoovers own recent efforts at marketing a robotic cleaner, I see this Electrolux MotionSense as nothing more than a short-term, cynical attempt to market yet another Chinese designed and made cleaner imported by the container-load using one of their "quality" brand names to see if the idea flies. At least the original Electrolux Trilobite was an innovative, original, fresh, ground-up (mostly) in-house design built with principles and quality in mind, and built to high standards in their own factories (or at least under their own watchful eye)... Electrolux just doesn't do that kind of quality stuff anymore*. Personally, I'd avoid this... and I'll wager good money no robotic cleaner bearing the Electrolux/AEG/Zanussi brand-name will survive more than a year or two simply because others A) have an established lead and B) actually care enough to specialise in that market and are prepared to invest in and develop that technology. Sad to say, but Electrolux today is simply interested in branding (mostly) cheaply-made, mass-market, quick-buck fodder.

*Electrolux UK was, until around the mid-1990's, a proper manufacturing plant employing thousands and extending to maybe 100 acres. Today, the main manufacturing site is now new housing, with just a small Head Office remaining which still bears the Electrolux brand-name, but where they simply shuffle the import paperwork and do sod-all else.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby glnc222 » September 23rd, 2016, 2:54 pm

The appliance industry outgrew the original companies earlier in the decade with General Electric selling off their consumer business and venerable Maytag being sold as well. They've gone to "brand consolidators" like Iconic Brands.
The old Sylvania electronics brand sold for advertising. The european vacuum robot sold in the U.S. is Miele. For some odd reason Vorwerk Kobold has not sought or found practical a U.S. presence. Lot of competition. Dyson remans a prominent vacuum maker. It is somewhat just a breakup of old oligopolies from an earlier tech era, like the deregulation of airlines -- now consolidating again (but still engaging in price wars!). German kitchen appliances big here, Bosch, higher end.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby Heraklen » September 23rd, 2016, 4:20 pm

Some stats from the info we have:

* Triangular shape with one side brush
* 210mm wide brush in front
* Sound level 75dB
* 60 minutes battery time
* 3 hours to charge
* 2500mAh Li-ion battery
* Automatic self charging (wonder if this means it will resume cleaning if out of battery?)
* Scheduling and spot cleaning.
* No app or wifi-support.
* Virtual wall (only the grey model)
* Remote control (only the grey model)
* Weight 2.7Kg
* 0.5litre big dustbin.
* Can handle up to 2cm high obstacles.
* Price 4500 (white) 5000 (grey) SKR .. = around 527$ / 585$ inc. 25% taxes.

Uses IR instead of Sonar (Trilobite)
Seem to use edge cleaning and then random bouncing to clean , not that intelligent .

I still have a Trilobite running at home , 10 years old and still going strong. Not that impressed with this new model. And I bought a new Neato Botvac D75 yesterday :) (D75 costs 140$ less than this new robot)
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby glnc222 » September 23rd, 2016, 5:25 pm

The old Trilobite was important in having larger wheels which could navigate better on carpets, now reproduced uniquely in Samsung's Powerbot. Some carpets are slippery, with wax materials or what not in the fibers, besides thickness of the pile. Neato's can use a glider cardboard plate addition underneath for some cases, other thread, but Samsung handles it -- at a higher price...and a higher profile which will not fit under as many sofa designs. There is always some furniture nothing fits under. All a matter of personal situation and preference.

This ersatz Electrolux seems poor compared to Xiaomi's inexpensive offering from China, one of their substantial firms in this case.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby mfortuna » September 25th, 2016, 10:03 am

I think the reason Vorwerk is not in the USA is they own part of Neato Robotics. If Neato goes under maybe Vorwerk will re-brand the Neato and enter the US market.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby glnc222 » September 25th, 2016, 4:22 pm

Under robotic vacuums on Amazon U.S., a whole bunch of unknown brand early Roomba imitations can be seen under $200. There is no sign of cameras or lasers on this Electrolux. The battery is smaller than higher end robots with guidance. Hard to see how it would be much more than these very inexpensive imports listed at Amazon.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby piokrza » September 30th, 2016, 3:27 pm

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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby davidelewis » September 30th, 2016, 3:59 pm

Interesting ... It appears to have a brush similar to Neato and navigate similar to older Roomba (sequencing through cleaning patterns with minimal smarts). The integrated dust bin looks pretty cool.
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby piokrza » October 1st, 2016, 5:23 am

Even more information on official Electrolux website (unfortunately in swedish) http://www.electrolux.se/wellbeing/disc ... tionsense/
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby piokrza » October 6th, 2016, 7:50 am

Bottom view on ERV5210TG it look to have two separate battery compartments.
electrolux-erv5210tg(232687)_6_Normal_Extra-2.jpg

side brush seems magnetic mounted (similar to Neato Botvac)
electrolux-erv5100iw(232685)_2_Normal_Extra-8.jpg

main brush bristles doesn't look stiff
electrolux-erv5100iw(232685)_2_Normal_Extra-10.jpg

electrolux-erv5100iw(232685)_2_Normal_Extra-11.jpg

large filter
ELECTROLUX-MotionSense-ERV5210TG.png

virtual wall pretty bulky (similar to Samsung's)
electrolux-erv5100iw(232685)_2_Normal_Extra-9.jpg

ELECTROLUX-MotionSense-ERV5210TG (1).png

docking station bulky too
ELECTROLUX-MotionSense-ERV5100IW.png

overall, it looks pretty solid (dimensions: 34cmx9cm, weight 3.8kg)
electrolux-erv5210tg(232687)_6_Normal_Extra-8.jpg

for around $520 will will get randome-style navigation
ELECTROLUX-MotionSense-ERV5100IW (1).png

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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby piokrza » October 22nd, 2016, 7:27 pm

it's now officially available in Sweden:

ERV5100IW http://www.electrolux.se/homecare/vacuu ... erv5100iw/
ERV5210TG (comes with remote and virtual wall) http://www.electrolux.se/homecare/vacuu ... erv5210tg/

user's manual: http://www.electrolux.se/support/user-m ... =ERV5210TG (click 'Se andra språk' to download english and other language version)

It works using 3 algorithm sequences:

-snake
-bounce
-wall following

spares prices are also unveiled:

ERK1 Kit incl. 3x filter, 3x side brush, 1x main brush = €150.46 http://onderdelen.electrolux.nl/product ... TION+SENSE

EVW1 Virtual Wall €120.33 http://onderdelen.electrolux.nl/product ... UAL+BARRIE
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby Coguar » November 14th, 2016, 1:27 pm

looks great, but We will wait for reviews ...
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

Postby piokrza » November 14th, 2016, 1:42 pm

piokrza wrote:it's now officially available in Sweden:

ERV5100IW http://www.electrolux.se/homecare/vacuu ... erv5100iw/
ERV5210TG (comes with remote and virtual wall) http://www.electrolux.se/homecare/vacuu ... erv5210tg/



don't know why they removed it...but at least it's already available in mediamarkt.se http://www.mediamarkt.se/sv/product/_el ... 88164.html
http://www.mediamarkt.se/sv/product/_el ... 88165.html
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Re: New robot from Electrolux - Electrolux Motionsense

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