Robomow robotic lawn mower

Questions and comments about all other Robots go here.

Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby robomow » January 24th, 2017, 5:05 pm

Hi guys,

how can I start a new board indexed forum for robotic lawn mowers? Specifically Robomow as we would like our customers and non customers to be able to ask and answer questions regarding Robomow.

http://usa.robomow.com/
robomow
 
Posts: 5
Joined: January 24th, 2017, 4:44 pm

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » January 24th, 2017, 5:24 pm

[edit]See member's review and comments in "reviews" section http://www.robotreviews.com/chat/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17441

Function of the moderator only. When sufficient interest exists. You now have a thread. I have noticed more discussion of mowers at the German Roboter-Forum. (Maybe in the U.S. lawn tractors are more of interest -- more land.)
[edit] Descriptions of several mowers at http://www.robotlawnmowers.org/
Many sold on Amazon with reviews there.

[edit] The Robomow U.S. website does not have a forum for user discussion as major computer makers have in connection with support, e.g. Lenovo. Of course, those general purpose products are much more complicated and present innumerable support issues for compatibility with many other things and constantly changing software. Samsung puts customer reviews on its website, as do some appliance retailers.

Lots of youtube videos are used by Dyson for promotion, understandably today.

This website here is particularly devoted to engineering and internals of these devices, repairs etc., even reverse engineering when needed.

[edit] Also see review http://www.robotreviews.com/chat/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19411
Last edited by glnc222 on May 16th, 2017, 10:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby Panache » April 13th, 2017, 10:11 pm

I would be interested in learning more about robot mowers. I have about 3/4 acre of land and I'm truly fed up of spending every Saturday sweating like a horse for 3 hours. I see some of these mowers are spendy but no worse than a zero turn riding mower. And no oil, sparkplugs and sputtering engines to service. Or compared to hiring a lawn service, they would pay off in 2 years.

I see on the german site a lot more brands and models available there. Are any coming to the US? The only one I see for wide US sale is the Worx Landroid which only covers 1/4 acre. Also it uses the floating razor blades which I read on the german site are tricky if you have trees that shed a lot of leaves and twigs. Anyone got experience with the Robomow?
Panache
 
Posts: 30
Joined: October 8th, 2013, 9:03 pm

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 13th, 2017, 11:11 pm

No users to speak of here yet, but Google shows several mower review websites covering a number of brands.
Some lawn care services are now supplying robots http://www.greenindustrypros.com/news/12321912/on-demand-robotic-mowing-service-emerges-in-dallas
Picture shows a Husqvarna model -- major garden equipment brand. Robomow claims to be most popular.
http://usa.robomow.com/

Just as vacuum robots do not completely solve the problem of handling all furniture and flooring, I would expect limitations on use of robot mowers depending on your particular grounds.

You can discuss on German Roboter-Forum in English (preferred to poorly translating posts to German), reading with Google or Edge translator, with users there.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 13th, 2017, 11:23 pm

Husqvarna Automower 450x, costs $3,500. WIRED review https://www.wired.com/2016/07/husqvarna-automower-450x-review/
Husqvarna makes cheaper models around $2,000, and the competing Robomow costs $2,099.
At that price I would compare to hired help. Gardening services heavily used in this suburban area, $100 a month or something, don't know exactly, depends on size, friends have.
Maybe you could rent out the mower to neighbors, or form a neigborhood coop to share it.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby mfortuna » April 14th, 2017, 7:34 am

I have a fitbit and mowing the lawn helps me reach my step goal every week. I would not even consider a riding mower. Need to get some exercise!
Mike
Reds x 3, Dirt Dog, Disco (now a parts bot), Create, Scooba 350, and Security Dawg
Evolution Mint
Neato XV-11
User avatar
mfortuna
Robot Master
 
Posts: 5767
Joined: February 5th, 2006, 10:35 am
Location: NH

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby Panache » April 14th, 2017, 1:48 pm

We also have a self-propelled push mower and indeed the mowing is part of the exercise routine. But, it is not very enjoyable, especially come 90-degree weather, going on vacations or having to set aside 3 hours each week to mow. Many weekends the wife and I talk about going on a hike but instead stay home to cut the grass. Those 3 hours can be used for some more rewarding activities and projects, imo.

I do speak german so I've joined the roboter-forum, where I learned about the Xiaomi vacuum. Lots of brands and models of robo-lawnmower available in Europe, and good prices, but I can't seem to find how to get them shipped to US (and then service, etc becomes a concern).

From reading the german forum, yes the mowers are not a 100% solution but a 95% solution, you still have to pick up sticks and the first mow of the season needs to be done with the gas mower to chop up all the winter sticks and detritus. But much easier to just go around the property and touch up with the string trimmer most weeks and the robot takes care of the rest.

Looks like the Robomow 630 which is rated at 3/4 acre would be good for my plot, and they are sold in the US. Next would be to ask: When is a good time to buy one? I can imagine during the off season prices drop? $2,500 is a lot to swallow at once.
Panache
 
Posts: 30
Joined: October 8th, 2013, 9:03 pm

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 14th, 2017, 5:02 pm

A bunch of these are at Amazon for U.S. delivery, but most for only 1/4 acre, the most common suburban lot. I expect the issue is mainly battery size for sufficient run time, and you pay by the acre. Something this expensive might warrant a dealer to rely upon for service, but these are specialty tech items.

[edit]Some used ones available. Also on Ebay.

https://www.amazon.com/Landroid-Robotic-Mower-28-volt-WG794/dp/B00SJEUFF4/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_86_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH40GWBS5GRJ8HDR0760

https://www.amazon.com/Husqvarna-967623405-Automower-Robotic-Install/dp/B01CUV9IJA/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_86_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH40GWBS5GRJ8HDR0760

Husqvarna U.S. with dealer locator
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/offers/earth-days/?&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=husqvarna%20automower&utm_campaign=Husqvarna_Mowing_Brand_Exact&utm_content=sAVAJ0yEo|pcrid|184854351509|pkw|husqvarna%20automower|pmt|e|pdv|c|&gclid=Cj0KEQjw5sHHBRDg5IK6k938j_IBEiQARZBJWkWdJMQEgSkONhcCBdU7dGLqPh7tId6G911QMcpxWkgaAsGC8P8HAQ

They also make motorcycles and construction equipment.

With a self propelled mower you can tie a rope to a tree or stake to spiral around.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 14th, 2017, 7:44 pm

The acreage capacity appears governed by different widths of the bots and cutters, to cover larger areas in the same time and most efficient battery size, at proportional price differences. 3/4 acres takes the larger models.

Robomow appears to be a British company.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby Panache » April 15th, 2017, 1:21 pm

:D Could also get a pack of goats! :D

SO and I will probably make the robo splurge later this summer if we don't spend too much on vacation and we'll see.
Panache
 
Posts: 30
Joined: October 8th, 2013, 9:03 pm

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 19th, 2017, 3:58 pm

German comparison of Robomow and Husqvarna by owner of both:
http://www.roboter-forum.com/showthread.php?13197-Vergleich-Husqvarna-Automower-330X-(430X-ab-2016)-mit-Robomow-RS-630-(RS-635-ab-2016)&p=130032&viewfull=1#post130032
(to see some pics on Roboter-Forum you must register)
Robomow better with leaves. When service companies use Husqvarna they have a crew to rake leaves.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby Panache » April 23rd, 2017, 9:14 pm

Yes, I'm definitely considering the Robomow RS630 or the Husqvarna430. Better name brand recognition with Husqvarna and you can bring it to any dealer for repair. I guess with Robomow you have to box it up and send it in.

But, I do have a lot of trees that shed sticks and leaves and according to various threads in the german forum above, the fixed blades are better at dealing with leaves and stuff.

Anyone got any good ideas on how to use coupons, cashback portals, etc to get a bit of a cut on the price?
Panache
 
Posts: 30
Joined: October 8th, 2013, 9:03 pm

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 23rd, 2017, 10:01 pm

Maybe Amazon Husqvarna 450X https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01HR4FRNG/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=used
Sent a msg to the weird $400 listing, maybe an error. Pick it up in person... Garden season vulnerability.
[edit] Amazon reported seller's email not working.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 24th, 2017, 4:06 pm

glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » April 27th, 2017, 12:02 am

Seasonal Price Changes

A new big thing is websites which track prices on Amazon partly of interest to third party sellers playing pricing games with competition. big business on Amazon now. e.g. https://thetracktor.com/ Haven't checked for ebay.
Get the URL of the catalog page on Amazon to put in this engine (as no ASIN shown). Free website.

For a medium Robomow RC306 a year long or more history of both new and used prices is shown, with an apparent seasonal pattern which makes sense in marketing terms so probably not accidental.

New prices peak now starting May, for a month at the beginning of the gardening season with most demand, while used prices fall. New prices will fall end of summer in August, while used prices will then peak.
I picked this model to try and get one with some sales volume for sample data to be more representative, but you could check others and Husqvarna.
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby Panache » May 6th, 2017, 10:50 am

I had some more discussions on the German board and based on my large lot size and numerous trees and flower beds it seems the Automower 450 from Husqvarna is better. It can handle more complex situations (flowerbeds, etc) since it also can use up to 3 guide wires in addition to the boundary wire to find its way back to the station from far corners. Together with GPS functionality, it can tell where it has been and hasn't mowed so easier to use overall. The 430 would work too but would need to be mowing day and night to keep up.

With Robomow one would have to set up separate zones (use more of the wire to break up yard into quadrants and so one would quickly run up against the maximum length of 800 m) and then schedule it to mow each corner x% of the time. So, more tinkering needed. Plus more reports of problems with Robomow. Usually, easy fixes but more tinkering needed. Robomow would be good for flat square lawns.

So I bit the bullet and ordered a 450x from ebay. Bit cheaper than directly from a Dealer. Still quite spendy but still about the cost of a good lawn tractor, and without all the maintenance and oil changes and such.

It should be arriving today :happy-bouncyyellow: I will take some pics and report back as I install it.
Panache
 
Posts: 30
Joined: October 8th, 2013, 9:03 pm

Re: Robomow robotic lawn mower

Postby glnc222 » June 4th, 2017, 3:25 pm

Robomow may support software development, not sure what but files at ftp://sw.robomow.com:2120/
glnc222
Robot Master
 
Posts: 4537
Joined: January 23rd, 2012, 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina, U.S.


Return to All Other Robots

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ecologymagnet, petro, Snokia and 360 guests