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Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby bolero1000 » October 20th, 2009, 7:21 pm

Hi,

FYI During a google search I find out the scooba service manual used (I think) by Irobot CS.
Or better the PDF manual is 404, you could still read the google html cache (so, no photos... :cry: ):
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:oh ... clnk&gl=it

You could find the Irobot Troubleshooting Flowchart via Telephone (not so interesting ..), an appendix on the built-in test procedure (could be interesting for you Gordon ..), infos on the PSU, i.e. charging phases:
There are 3 phases to the normal charging algorithm.
1. The first phase is a full current charge (1.75A).
2. The second phase is a low current charge (430 mA).
3. The final phase is trickling (11 mA). Note: older software code was set at 50 mA

The serial number fully decoded:
MM
Manufacturer ID: 'JE' = Jetta, ‘YT’ = Kin Yat and 'PR' = PRC
U
Status : 'N' = new, 'R' = remanufactured
LLLLL
Model number (00000 - 09999)
YY
Year (since 2000) this robot was manufactured
mm
Month this robot was manufactured
dd
Day of the month this robot was manufactured
RR
Model revision for this robot
o [01] = Software Code : 2005-12-13-2046 – implemented 15h Dec 2005
o [02] = Software Code : 2006-06-09-1200 – implemented 30th Aug 2006
o [03] = Software Code : 2006-01-29-1253 – implemented 14th Mar 2007
o [04] = Software Code : 2007-07-06-1452 – implemented 3rd Sep 2007
o [05] = pump output is 22 ml/min, robot speed is 180 mm/s –23rd Oct 2007

Etc.etc.etc.

As you probably know docs on the google cache disappear after a while, so if you want to have a look better to hurry ...

Ciaoooooooooooo,
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P.S.: just wondering if the [05] version is the one of the 380 ... and if at the end the higher speed/bigger area covered is simply due to a different firmware and not to different HW ...it should mean that I could (potentially) transform my 335/350 in a 380 :shock:
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Re: Scooba service manual ...

Postby vic7767 » October 20th, 2009, 8:18 pm

The 380 covers more surface area due to the hardware. The Scooba runs faster than the other models, this allows the robot to cover more floor space.
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Re: Scooba service manual ...

Postby mfortuna » October 20th, 2009, 9:14 pm

Nice Document! I saved a copy.

All those charge terminations when the battery is > 60C. Way too hot!
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Re: Scooba service manual ...

Postby scapeghost » October 20th, 2009, 10:34 pm

Nice find, bolero1000!

I whipped up a quick PDF version of that cache. I'm attaching it here for posterity. Hopefully this is kosher... I figure it is, since it's on Google and all. :roll: Since it's been HTML-ified by Google's cache, all of the pictures have been stripped of course.


I did some more digging and found references to a "Roomba 500 Series Service Manual" and "Roomba 400 Series Service Manual" cached here on the site irobot-distributorportal.custhelp.com . Unfortunately, this site requires a login to access this document. This Google search reveals more Roomba documents on that site. It seems like many of the mundane links there like "Side Brush Module" open OK, but the juicy ones like service manuals need that login. I also found what appears to be a partial decoding of the 500 series Roomba's serial number (or maybe just software version number) to reveal the build version:
Code: Select all
Roomba 500 Series Software Versions
Roomba 500 Series revisions : 00 indicates Software Code 2007-06-20-0211 01 indicates Software Code 2007-08-27-1705 (impl. 5 Sept 2007) 02 indicates Software Code 2008-01-14-1241 (impl. 6 March...

custhelp.com isn't owned by iRobot of course... googling around reveals it's some sort of documentation repository used by many different companies. Oh well, at least with the names of the documents revealed (not that they're real surprising), we can keep an eye out for them to be "leaked" onto the web in the future.

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Re: Scooba service manual ...

Postby Gordon » October 22nd, 2009, 1:19 pm

Thank you, Luciano, for posting that Service Manual find! Limited as it is, without its illustrations, it still provides much information.

Whether I ever find time to merge (more likely I would cite references to its material) data into our self-derived version of Scooba's BiT procedure/table, is somewhat uncertain (too many interesting projects beg to be done).

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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby bolero1000 » November 13th, 2009, 2:59 pm

Hi again,

Found out also this one for the roomba 500 family.
It's still from google cache (so no photos), I edited it a little bit to remove a couple of emails addresses.

For the moderator/administrator, I don't see in it any copyrights infos, so I suppose it's OK (more or less ..) to publish it.
If you think it could be a problem, naturally you could remove it (obviously .. you're the boss here :lol: !!)

Ciaooooooooooo,
Luciano

P.S.: I had to convert it from html to pdf with CutePDF printer as this site doesn't accept html. This is the reason of lines partially "deleted"

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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby vic7767 » November 13th, 2009, 3:32 pm

bolero1000, thanks very much for the effort of converting the manual to pdf. When I download and view the file it seems that several words on the right hand side of the page are missing. Is this my software pdf issue or is the file corrupt?
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby mfortuna » November 13th, 2009, 3:36 pm

bolero1000 wrote:P.S.: I had to convert it from html to pdf with CutePDF printer as this site doesn't accept html. This is the reason of lines partially "deleted"


Vic, he mentioned that. I have full Adobe and could try to convert it. What is the URL?
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby mfortuna » November 13th, 2009, 3:39 pm

Check out page 54, how to get the 500 series into self test mode!

Power off by pressing clean for a few seconds.

Press and hold clean and dock while pressing spot 9 times gets into auto-advance mode.

Press and hold clean and dock while pressing spot 12 times gets into manual-advance mode.
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby bolero1000 » November 13th, 2009, 4:06 pm

HI Vic,
vic7767 wrote:bolero1000, thanks very much for the effort of converting the manual to pdf. When I download and view the file it seems that several words on the right hand side of the page are missing. Is this my software pdf issue or is the file corrupt?


Yes, seems you're right, right part seems cutted out (like on the image attached).
Doesn't change if I try different page setup (for the PDF printer sw) :cry:
Tried also with word, but it loosing all the "table" setting ... not a very good results..

I sent a message to Mike, perhaps he could convert it in a better way with its Adobe.

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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby Fraggboy » November 13th, 2009, 4:18 pm

bolero1000 wrote:. . .For the moderator/administrator, I don't see in it any copyrights infos, so I suppose it's OK (more or less ..) to publish it.
. . .


I don't see an issue with the documents. Craig might have another view on it.

Thank you for sharing it
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby vic7767 » November 13th, 2009, 4:32 pm

Great find mike ! I was just getting ready to sell the secret commands via the SCI port and now everyone can do it for free.... :lol:
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby Gordon » November 13th, 2009, 4:37 pm

Definitely a super find, Luciano!!

While the document does have its RH-margin truncated, there is a wealth of info which CAN be read.

I spotted numerous tiny errors and some confusing terms (such as "PWM truncation"), and I also found this hangover from the R2 service manual:
5XX Srvc Manl wrote:Circle Dance (Drive Wheel Module Problem)

Customer observations

Erratic spinning and arching
Extended circling around one wheel
Circling interspersed with wiggling or rocking behavior
Forward and/or backward circling
Circling at slow, normal or rapid speed

Most common causes:
Dirt has infiltrated the wheel encoder or a drive belt
{color added to emphasize}

Hah! 5XXs have no belt or wheel "encoder" that can be bothered by dirt!! :clap:

OK, fun over. Luciano, can you ZIP up that HTM file and attach the zipped version to a post?

TIA;
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby bolero1000 » November 13th, 2009, 5:07 pm

Hi Gordon,
Gordon wrote:OK, fun over. Luciano, can you ZIP up that HTM file and attach the zipped version to a post?

TIA;
---Gordon


Ooopps, didn't think about the simplest solution (the zip file) ... I was going to post a landscape printing (that's OK right hand but paging all messed up)

Here you're.

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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby mfortuna » November 13th, 2009, 5:31 pm

vic7767 wrote:Great find mike ! I was just getting ready to sell the secret commands via the SCI port and now everyone can do it for free.... :lol:

Sorry Vic! Did you try the procedure and see if it really works? I don't have a 500 series and even if I did I'm at work.
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby Gordon » November 13th, 2009, 5:35 pm

Allllll right Luciano... that was fast!

A quick look in the HTM code shows no truncation (I looked only at one toc line, and the paragraph following the "Customer Call" header), so all data is most likely present.

Hang, on a minute, and I'll launch it in my browser...
...yep, that's the way to view this document! Even the page 42 instructions to button-push your way into the BiT sequence are complete (in the pdf version, Spot-press details were not complete on page-42)! Of course those lines are repeated, in whole, in a bulleted list on the page Mike listed.
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby mfortuna » November 13th, 2009, 5:43 pm

Here is the pdf in 11x17 page format. It probably messes up the page numbers versus what pdf lists them as but it is readable for those who don't want to use zip files.

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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby vic7767 » November 13th, 2009, 6:01 pm

mfortuna wrote:Sorry Vic! Did you try the procedure and see if it really works? I don't have a 500 series and even if I did I'm at work.


The button press sequence works, this is a very good discovery and will help all 5XX owners figure out what is going on inside their Roomba.
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby Gordon » November 13th, 2009, 6:40 pm

MIke, your pdf output is working fine. Only the minor issue of Adobe mangling (occasionally) a bottom-of-page line still remains.

However, the magnification capability that pdf dox give us (so old eyes can read small print) far outweighs that mangling issue!
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Re: Scooba & Roomba 500 service manual ...

Postby mfortuna » November 13th, 2009, 10:42 pm

Thanks Gordon. I'll try again Monday when I get back to work. Maybe I can clean it up further.
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