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Roomba Vs. Trilobite

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 9:50 am
by Quitch
I've only just run across the Trilobite, and since it's missing from the robotic vac round-up done last year I was wondering how people felt the two compared?

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 10:03 am
by Earthling
i've never seen a tribolite in action, only read things about it. honestly if i was going to get a different robotic vacuum other then roomba I'd get the one that dumps its dirt/dust bin on its on and continues cleaning. i forget the brand/name of this product at the moment, but i do know its yellow, hehe. as far as cleaning power. my 2.1 really does an amazing job, i don't see how it would be able to do all that much better, however it probably is a little better, more durable. but the reason it costs so much more is because of of how it senses objects. it doesn't bump and turn like roomba, it sends out signals kind of like a bat does, and the signal bounces back to it, and it can tell how far it is from an object. I think that is the big cash taker for the product.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 10:25 am
by Quitch
The yellow one you're thinking of is the Karcher RC3000, though it uses bags which I find an instant turn-off.

There's a comparison between the three of them here:

http://www.mower-magic.co.uk/acatalog/robotvacs.html

The Trilobite seems to be missing any kind of sidebrush, but since the comparison is on the Roomba page and in the Roomba format, I wonder who put it together :) Hence why I'm look for other views.

Dead surprised this site hasn't taken a look at it really. Actually, I'm surprised how Roomba-centric this site is. I thought the name simply reflected the best known early robo vac, I'd have thought by now there'd be more of a variety in the reviews and coverage.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 10:39 am
by Earthling
the title of the site is 'roomba review', not 'robotic vaccuum review'.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 11:11 am
by Quitch
Uh, right, but without looking at the competition any review is meaningless. That's why I liked the round-up, it was exceedingly useful, if a little Roomba friendly.

I hadn't realised the site name was going to be taken so literally.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 11:19 am
by Earthling
actually any review is not meaningless. there are now many different models of roomba, so we compair and we watch the improvements that are made and see how much they actually make the unit better. irobot actually reads this site sometimes, so they can see our imput as well.

you must not be very educated, things can be done many ways.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 11:30 am
by Quitch
That comment was pretty pathetic. If you need insults to back up your argument, perhaps your argument isn't as solid as you think.

Frankly iRobot could have a back catalogue of thousands of robo vacs, yet if the latest model from the competition is better at the same price than the latest from iRobot, it doesn't matter how much better their new Roomba is over their last five hundred Roombas, it still doesn't represent good value for money. I'm sorry you can't see that.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 11:52 am
by Earthling
lol, no other robot that is near its standars are at its price! duh. If you want you can get a sharper image evac or other piece of junk, but everyone knows if its not a roomba, its basically sh**. Unless of course you pay over 1,000 for one of the other well made robotic vaccuums.

so your argument of other same priced units doesn't have any backing here. your unthought comments should be kept to yourself.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 12:09 pm
by Quitch
Reading this site would tell me nothing of what you just wrote, which was rather my point. But please, don't let me stop your trolling.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 1:06 pm
by robotreviews
Quitch wrote:The yellow one you're thinking of is the Karcher RC3000, though it uses bags which I find an instant turn-off.

There's a comparison between the three of them here:

http://www.mower-magic.co.uk/acatalog/robotvacs.html

The Trilobite seems to be missing any kind of sidebrush, but since the comparison is on the Roomba page and in the Roomba format, I wonder who put it together :) Hence why I'm look for other views.

Dead surprised this site hasn't taken a look at it really. Actually, I'm surprised how Roomba-centric this site is. I thought the name simply reflected the best known early robo vac, I'd have thought by now there'd be more of a variety in the reviews and coverage.
Heheh, well in fairness I only reviewed the 'consumer priced' robotic vacs, because the Trilobite and the Robocleaner really aren't priced for purchase by your average consumer. I did hope to review them, but the manufacturers declined to send review samples, and I am not willing to pay those prices to review such niche products that few people will ever buy.

The Sharper Image eVac looked very promising, but unfortunately it turned out to be an extremely poor performer and was very unreliable, and it has already been discontinued by The Sharper Image.

A competitor that does seem extremely exciting to me is the new Electrolux Trilobite 2.0, and I will definitely review that model when it is released, regardless of whether I have to purchase it at retail or not.

This site is completely independent and is not affiliated with iRobot in any way. If another robotic vacuum eventually does 'dethrone' the Roomba...

Well, I suppose I could always change the site name! ;)

Craig

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 2:05 pm
by Kenwood True X
Here is a good review of the Trilobite: http://www.everydayrobots.com/index.php ... &Itemid=25

They said it does not do much better then the Roomba on low to mid pile carpet but it does do better then the Roomba on high pile. It should considering how much it costs. :shock: I would guess the Trilobite is also more durable then the Roomba.

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 6:38 pm
by rob_bora
I found some videos of the trilobite and karcher here is the link to the site although its not in english just scroll down to the video links
http://www.mikrobitti.fi/nettijatkot/20 ... usrobotit/[/url]

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 6:50 pm
by rob_bora
I must say the trilobite while more advanced seems extremely slow and almost mildly retarded :lol: compared to the roomba and karcher in the last video at the bottom of the page. it seems the karcher is probably the better choice than the trilobite

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 7:42 pm
by RC Eden Carpet Cleaning
Do you guys think that when the trilobite 2.0 comes out the original trilobite will come down very much in price?

Posted: July 15th, 2005, 8:12 pm
by THX-1138
Hello Rob,

Thanks for the links but I am unable to download the videos. It seems to ask for a user ID and PWD.

Posted: July 16th, 2005, 12:20 pm
by Quitch
roombareview wrote:
Quitch wrote:The yellow one you're thinking of is the Karcher RC3000, though it uses bags which I find an instant turn-off.

There's a comparison between the three of them here:

http://www.mower-magic.co.uk/acatalog/robotvacs.html

The Trilobite seems to be missing any kind of sidebrush, but since the comparison is on the Roomba page and in the Roomba format, I wonder who put it together :) Hence why I'm look for other views.

Dead surprised this site hasn't taken a look at it really. Actually, I'm surprised how Roomba-centric this site is. I thought the name simply reflected the best known early robo vac, I'd have thought by now there'd be more of a variety in the reviews and coverage.
Heheh, well in fairness I only reviewed the 'consumer priced' robotic vacs, because the Trilobite and the Robocleaner really aren't priced for purchase by your average consumer. I did hope to review them, but the manufacturers declined to send review samples, and I am not willing to pay those prices to review such niche products that few people will ever buy.

The Sharper Image eVac looked very promising, but unfortunately it turned out to be an extremely poor performer and was very unreliable, and it has already been discontinued by The Sharper Image.

A competitor that does seem extremely exciting to me is the new Electrolux Trilobite 2.0, and I will definitely review that model when it is released, regardless of whether I have to purchase it at retail or not.

This site is completely independent and is not affiliateted with iRobot in any way. If another robotic vacuum eventually does 'dethrone' the Roomba...

Well, I suppose I could always change the site name! ;)

Craig
Heh, I wouldn't, the Roomba is the dominant brand, in the same way the vacuum cleaner became the "hoover" in Britain, or photocopying became "xeroxing" in the States, robotic vacuum cleaning is probably associated by most with the Roomba (another example is how many people call their MP3 player an iPod even if it isn't because they simply think iPod when thinking of MP3 players).

I found another couple of vacs I've never seen mentioned before. Seems Samsung were working on one, but it doesn't look like it ever got released, while the other one I forgot to save the link for :)

I thought the Trilobite looked over-priced, especially considering it needs strips to work. I was most interested in knowing how the lack of a side brush would affect it.

The Kacher is what I'm most interested in because, IMO, to become a truly worthwhile purchase, robo vacs would need to be able to operate for long periods entirely unsupervised, including emptying themselves AND maintaing effective suction over multiple runs. I'd also want them to be a bit more effective than 90% at finding their way home. I want the base station out of sight, but would need it in sight currently so I can check on whether my robo made it home or not. The scheduler is a step in the right direction, but we're not there yet.

They should also operate as effectively in multiple rooms. The second I need to do anything besides empty the base station (or move it upstairs, and I'd rather just buy another one :)), I consider the robot a failure.

I wouldn't limit reviews by price though (unless, as you say, they won't send you a mode). I'd would spend more on a robo than normal vac, partly for the automation, but there's also the "cool" factor which makes me willing :)

Once robots can do my ironing I will be happy :)

Posted: July 16th, 2005, 12:43 pm
by Quitch
Kenwood True X wrote:Here is a good review of the Trilobite: http://www.everydayrobots.com/index.php ... &Itemid=25

They said it does not do much better then the Roomba on low to mid pile carpet but it does do better then the Roomba on high pile. It should considering how much it costs. :shock: I would guess the Trilobite is also more durable then the Roomba.
Thanks for the link, I'll have to poke around that site.

Posted: July 16th, 2005, 8:03 pm
by hadees
What about dyson, weren't they making one?

Posted: July 17th, 2005, 1:07 am
by RC Eden Carpet Cleaning
Yes here is a link to some info on it

http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/robotics/dyson_dc06.asp

Posted: July 17th, 2005, 5:24 am
by Quitch
Damn I wish people would start timestamping their articles!